Andrea P.
07/08/2020 12:00:00 SA
We purchased a brand new home in October 2015. Over the course of the first year we documented several issues to address with our builder at the one-year anniversary. In November 2016 we submitted a warranty request via the home builder website that included a toilet leak in the master bathroom. At that time a plumber was sent out by the builder to assess the issue. He never removed the toilet to look at the root cause. He moved the toilet back and forth/side to side, and noticed the bolts were loose. He tightened the bolts securing the toilet and told us the leak should stop. He was in and out of the house in 10 minutes time but we trusted the expert and didn't think twice.
Fast forward to June 2020 and we discovered a leak from the master bathroom down to our kitchen ceiling. We consulted a plumber who removed the toilet to find the wax ring was ruined and the flange rusted. The plumber discovered that the flange was not on top of the finished floor tile and no flange extender was used. This caused undo stress on the wax ring causing it to fail and grey water to seep into the floor and ceiling of our home. This situation became even more concerning given a wax ring should last the life of the toilet (20-30 years). In addition, as a sick twist of fate, the toilet in our other upstairs bathroom started to leak out water after it is flushed within days of the master toilet leak. We had the plumber come back out to our home and he removed the toilet to find 2 wax rings under the toilet. The plumber explained this is a way that plumbers cut corners as there is too much room between the flange and the toilet. The plumber also explained that a wax ring should adhere to the toilet even when the toilet is removed. Both the master and secondary toilet wax rings fell off when the plumber removed the toilets, indicating the wax ring/toilet was not installed correctly.
I called the home builder who stated I was outside of my home warranty and my best course of action would be to call Epic Plumbing. Initially I spoke to Gary at Epic Plumbing. Gary is the Customer Service Manager and unfortunately did not live up to his title. After explaining the situation and stating I had a plumber come to our home to remove the toilet to assess the issue and damage Gary replied condescendingly, oh, I bet your plumber had great things to say about me, at which point I questioned his professionalism. I requested Epic send someone out to assess the damage. Hours later a technician arrived at the home and took multiple pictures. At that time and even though we asked repeatedly, the technician did not provide us the assessment of his findings. The restoration company that was helping to clear the grey water in the home also reached out to the technician; however, his only response was, I was only sent to take pictures, I do not make the decisions. He did share that he would be speaking with his boss and we should hear something the next day, but no response.
I called two business days later and spoke to the front office. Rene in the front office is amazing and exudes the highest amount of customer service of any one at Epic! Rene stated she was aware of my situation and would have someone call me right back. Two days later and no phone call, I reached out to Epic again. Rene answered the phone and quickly transferred me to Gary. In all Gary glory, he lived up again to his title. He stated he reviewed the photos and saw nothing wrong. When I asked if it is normal practice to install a flange at sub-floor level and not the finished level, he stated, that's how the do it and that wax rings give throughout their use. I know this is not the case as I have consulted 3 other plumbers who have looked at the work and identified the root cause being that the flange was installed too low and an extender should have been used. When I again asked if that is normal wear for a toilet and wax ring just over 4 years old he stated again that he reviewed the photos and did not see anything wrong. All from a man who didn't even come to my home to look at the shoddy work himself. At that point he stated he would not help us resolve any issues. He was rude and the worst customer service manager I have ever encountered.
I would typically not bash a company or even lodge a formal compliant, but the workmanship was subpar and as a result I am out thousands of dollars. In addition, Epic's response (or lack there of) is extremely unprofessional and I am concerned that they continue to use poor judgement and cut corners with no regard of the consequences. This company is a huge scam and used by builders because they come in cheap, simply because they only do half the job. Avoid this company at all costs, even if they save you a few dollars at the beginning, you'll pay for it in the end.