I recently needed to get the shut off value for my hot water heater replaced, as the stem on the existing gate value had broken. I got a couple quotes, one being $275 (which in hindsight seems about appropriate). I then got a call back from Louis at Professional Plumbing Services. Louis seemed to understand the problem well, said the valve part itself was $40 and that PPS billed $120 for the first hour and then $60 per hour thereafter. Sounded reasonable, and at what seemed like an hour or two max job, it might come out about the same or lower than my previous quote and they had an opening the next day.
Plumber showed up a few minutes early for our 9 AM appointment. Nice, affable guy that checked out the problem and then promptly disappeared back into his van for 15 minutes. Not a good sign in hindsight, haha. He emerged from the van and I expected to see a bunch of parts ready to assemble, but to my surprise it didn't appear like anything had been accomplished.
The job ended up taking two and a half hours, with one more unexplained, unproductive disappearance into the van for 15 minutes during that time. Also, when cutting out the old section of pipe, the plumber didn't account for the water already in the line, which sprayed everywhere, with I'd estimate a half gallon to gallon of water overflowing into the wall cavity that the pipe was located in. I checked the moisture level in that wall the next day and the bottom half of the wall had a 100% moisture reading, necessitating that I cut another hole in the drywall at the bottom of the wall to avoid a potential mold issue down the road.
I've attached a picture of the finished work. It looks like a total of 8 soldered joints and a couple compression joints. Note: I had him add support for 1/4 connection to feed the ice maker on my garage refrigerator.
In total, I'd say it took two hours of work and 30 minutes sitting in his car.
After completing this, I had him take a look at a slow draining sink that I believe had some root inundation in the line. Prior to starting that work he asked if I minded if he took a short break. I said sure, just knock on the door when you are ready. He disappeared into his truck for another 20 minutes.
On to the clogged drain work ... So he snaked the sink one time, didn't come back with anything and thought that the sink was draining at an acceptable rate. I disagreed and got him to snake it a second time, upon which he pulled out a four foot section of root. Upon seeing the root, he said had never seen that come out of a drain, had no ability to address the issue, and that I should call a different plumber to look at it. He snaked it two more times (for a total of 4 attempts), but wasn't able to get anymore root out.
He then said he would head out to his truck and put the invoice together. Creating the invoice took another 20 minutes. So the invoice total came to $665 w/ tax. Four hours of work plus parts ... with the ball valve that Louis quoted at $40 being listed on the invoice for $80. Same ball valve sells for Amazon for $20. I totally expect a markup on parts but 4x!
So in the end, this is how the visit broke down time wise:
Onsite 9AM - 1PM
- Replace ball valve - 2 hrs
- 2 x 15 minute disappearances into truck - 30 minutes
- Rest in between ball valve and snaking sink - 20 minutes
- Snaking sink - 40 minutes
- Creating invoice - 20 minutes
To summarize, I was charged for 70 minutes of time ($140) that was purely resting in his truck and creating the invoice after the work was completed. Add to that being overcharged for parts and I estimate I paid $200 more than I should have been charged. To top it off, I later discovered that the invoice was actually written to a completely different customers name and address, complicating my record keeping for the job. Louis called later and apologized for the paperwork mix up and said he would get me proper paperwork with me listed as the customer ... well needless to say I never heard from him again or received said paperwork.
Needless to say, I will not be using PPS again, I recommend you take your business elsewhere. I hope my experience saves someone else!