Jack M.
11/01/2013 12:00:00 SA
This is a review of attempting to get service not actual performance on a job. I normally don't find this kind of review useful, so I apologize to anyone who finds the same. But I've just had a bunch of pretty mixed, odd experience that might be helpful to others. Consider this a very limited review that's hopefully helpful to the business, as well as potential customers.
Bottom line: if you need high quality work and don't have other options, maybe it's well worth calling Women's Plumbing -- they've got good reviews for their work, and this is just about getting service. But if you're considering another plumber who seems like they'll do really good quality work (which is the reputation of Women's Plumbing), then maybe call them first. Jac seems to have enough business that she's quick to turn down jobs and doesn't see much need to consider what a customer needs. That doesn't bode all that well for the customer-plumber dynamics once they're actually out working -- although if the plumber has an inherent commitment to quality (may be true for Jac) then all could be fine.
Specifics:
--I've had to chase down Jac, who failed to return my calls even after I (at her -- reasonable -- request, in the first call) texted her a bunch of pictures of the pipes that had issues.
--Once I finally got her, to her credit, her first suggestion was that I do some things myself and save myself spending money on her -- that shows integrity, or a lack of need for more business, or both.
--But I'd tried a bunch of things and so was ready to spend some money to solve the problem. Replacing a few feet of quite standard pipes was one likely outcome. She was willing to come look at things -- for $150/hour, with a one-hour minimum -- but only said she'd try to remember to bring some pipes if she had them in her basement. Keeping a bit of standard pipe in stock to avoid charging every customer $150 for a trip to the hardware store seems pretty reasonable -- tons of other businesses carry inventory, and while that can be expensive, plumbers go through a lot of pipe. Furthermore, for $150, someone should be able to make sure to remember, not just try -- write it down. So I asked her if she could make *sure* to have the pipe in case we could solve the problem (within my 1-hour minmum) by just replacing -- which seemed pretty likely.
--She reacted badly, for no reason I could figure out, except that she can't handle a customer pushing back even in a perfectly civil way -- which happens in ordinary business interactions *all* the time. I'm not sure this is going to work out she started musing, and then went on and on reflecting about how the conversation seemed to have taken a bad turn. I tried to respond that I didn't think it had taken a bad turn -- we were just discussing the job -- but she just talked and talked about process and how she thought maybe I should call another plumber and how the tone of the exchange had been ... and, and, and. Finally, unable to get a word in edgewise to say, Okay, sounds like this isn't a match, have a good day, I just hung up.
--Seemed like that was the end of it, but she seemed to need further therapy, so called me again to try to talk out the situation. She went on and on, musing about how... I tried to make clear that I really didn't see a situation -- if we weren't going to do business, I didn't want to waste more time talking about our non-existent relationship. To get that across, I had to try to interrupt her and finally to tell her to stop talking and listen -- at which point she hung up on me.
So Jac may (per other reviews) be great at the plumbing -- and that's probably most important to everyone. If she gets so much business she can turn it down (and charge higher than average rates) despite the flakiness, then she probably is great. But the flakiness might be relevant to some people.
Or maybe Jac can adapt her manner a bit, to the reality that customers have needs, servicepeople have needs, and they need to figure out how to fit. Sometimes that requires some negotiation, because they don't always fit immediately. If she's got all the power in the relationship, then she can totally dictate the terms -- when there's any difference, she can tell the customer they're wrong. But the norm in business is to try to understand the customer's needs and figure out how you can meet those -- or at least make it look like you're taking that attitude. If you're looking for a smooth interpersonal experience, as well as a good business relationship, that's the attitude to take -- it may be hard to find a good plumber, but it's really off-putting for a customer to be treated like you should feel privileged to be able to hire someone.